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Actually I was writing a different post about connecting the debian-trisquel communities, but now that I started reading the debian.planet blog posts it caused me to realize that the debian *community* has wildly different ideas about "freedom" compared to the gnu/fsf project.
In my experience, the communication mediums for linux related distributions are actually highly prohibitive, and it's not obvious from the outside looking in. One must actually go and try to get involved in these communities to discover it for themselves, but they are highly restrictive against free association and communications @debian.
It's obvious, that because of the effort to curtail the community, and restrict people's speech, these organizations of various gnu/fsf descent are actually isolated from each other, and so they possess an environment where outside thoughts don't get in. The extent of which is evident by simply reading what people are saying/talking about.
Now that I think about it, even Trisquel, like Debian, represents a kind of broader global agenda.
Did I miss something here? Is this forum for talking about packages, but not how they work? Is the forum for promoting Trisquel, but not it's users? Is it for minimizing the scale of technology, but not exploring the full extent of it? Are Gnu/Linux webforums for people to simply talk to themselves, and be ignored by literally everybody else? Aren't we supposed to be working together to solve technological problems, or are they dependent on the choice characterizations of authority figures.
People in these places talk to each other as if they are programming a computer. That's not how people should talk to each other. We are not an if else statement. We are not binary, and we aren't thrilled, by binary puns either guys. (except now I do find myself enjoying them learning more about it)
Is anyone here even aware of how to achieve freedom in computing? Maybe we should want to speak to these people. Because we actually care about achieving it.
Do people here even use their computer frequently?
I thought this was a forum for users of the Gnu/Linux operating system, and as a real one, I use the computer constantly, I am available literally 24/7 to help others with technological issues ranging from the utterly most trivial to ones which would rival the entire universe.
I can't see any evidence that people are around here frequently whatsoever. In my mind there's no one to talk to @Trisquel and the forums are 'dead'
How are we supposed to develop a 'community' in a place with absolutely no one around to talk to? Or with people that are anti-social, on a social media platform.
Look at this post for example, we need to talk about this.
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/ai-assaulting-vulnerable-people-en-masse
There's no one around, and it's a free for all, for organizations seeking to literally assault, not merely exploit, people en masse, at large, around the world.
How are we supposed to comprehend these literally vital matters, in the face of absolute denial, distortion of the facts, and manipulation, on the Trisquel forums? What do the members of the 'Trisquel' community think about that?
Hello ! ...
(there's no one there)
Real human beings do not treat each other like this, the way we are being treated on these forums.
Notice, the video in the thread I linked demonstrates that even at the highest levels of Government! They are naive to the challenges posed by modern day technological applications. (unwitting, inexperienced)
A broken community that is unable to speak freely about contemporary issues is the recipe for a clueless and vulnerable Government authority.
A fact which should be highly alarming, for anyone even mildly responsible.
Now I'm reading the https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/trisquel-community-guidelines
which, have at the end in the "Notes" after the "Code Of Conduct"
"Open Source: silent on freedom issues - gnu.org"
Silent on freedom, precisely describes the environment here on the Trisquel forums in my experience, and that is highly offensive. I hope you understand that fact. Trisquel should not resemble the other linux communities that are "silent on freedom issues" as well and worse, which actively seek to eliminate membership in the little virtual domain under their control.
Hello, and welcome, I don't think we've met before.
> Do people here even use their computer frequently?
Yes, many of us do, every day.
> How are we supposed to develop a 'community' in a place with absolutely no one around to talk to?
For context, the forum's activity is low to moderate, but most often low, and replies aren't always immediate. Most people post when they have time and when there's a concrete issue they are working on, so it helps to get a feel for the community's cadence.
> Real human beings do not treat each other like this, the way we are being treated on these forums.
With that in mind, please be mindful of your tone when asking for help in a public forum. Broad statements about "the community" tend to reduce the chances that people will engage, even when there's a real problem behind the message. This isn't unique to this forum, it's just how volunteer support communities usually work.
Sometimes people don't share the same issues, or don't think of something as an issue, that's okay. Your attention to detail about having all font pixels strictly black and white is a good example. If you've found a workable approach, I'd encourage you to document it on the wiki so others can benefit as well. And if you have time and interest, we can also use help testing development work.
Regards.
I'm not happy with the way I've been treated here at all, and have seen that others are being treated.
It's obvious to me, that this has become a kind of faux community, and feigns interest in fostering a real one, along the lines of the free software movement.
Unfortunately I am not inclined to be swayed by any temporal argument to the contrary, wrapped in polite, pretty language.
As a person actually inclined to tackle freedom issues, only to be met with disdain for the fsf, thinly veiled attempts at manipulation, and really complete ignorance and denial, I find this is a highly offensive environment.
I doubt that I'll have the patience to stay around to help other naive users that will naturally try to 'search for freedom' here as I did.
Sad that you see it that way.
I have nothing else to add.
Regards
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/ai-assaulting-vulnerable-people-en-masse
This is what is happening right now, these are the issues of paramount importance. Most people have no idea, that alternatives exist, they feel like they are trapped with proprietary technology, and can't escape.